They say hindsight is 20/20 and that everything in life is a lesson if you let it. With that in mind, and assuming I don’t start kicking myself all over again, let me tell you a little tale of how I almost gave all my information over to a fake company, with a fake job, and nearly didn’t see it coming.
There are a lot of jobs out there. There are also a lot of companies big enough to host those vacancies on their own websites for us to submit our information to, something I’m deeply familiar with. The only flaw (imho) is the fact your application gets lost in the nobody-to-contact-or-follow-up-with-so-all-you-can-do-is-wait black hole of helpless despair. But I digress. For those companies who are smaller, or who only have one or two vacancies needing filled, there are legitimate recruitment websites in which you can enter your job listing, then sit back and wait for the candidates to start sending you their information.
That’s how I heard about this particular job, the fake one. From a legitimate job posting website. And neither I nor the company hosting the post had any clue it wasn’t real.
So what happened? I saw the posting a few days ago on the [I’ll keep them unnamed since it wasn’t their fault] job site and read it through with interest. Some of the posts can be really detailed, and some offer the most basic information, leaving you to trust your gut on whether to submit your information or not. This one had a company name and a brief description on what they wanted. It seemed fine enough, no red flags, nothing to indicate anything untoward. In fact it was within a sea of other posts I’d applied to and it blended right in.
However, they were interested in my application and so I got an email through the website that they wanted to interview me the next day. In my excitement I googled the company name, and found it was a real company, and looked through all the information I could find on their website and their Facebook page to see who they were and to familiarize myself with their business.
Research the Job and the Company
Visit the company’s website and if they don’t have one or it doesn’t fit with how they describe the company, consider that a red flag. How professional is it? Is there contact information? Are jobs and career information posted on the site? – http://jobsearch.about.com/od/jobsearchscams/qt/howtotellscam.htm
For all intents and purposes, they passed the first test.
In the email it said they wanted to do the interview over instant messenger and, having worked for a number of small companies in my life whose owners are tech shy, this never registered with me as a problem. That was the first red flag I missed.
Scammers using Instant Messaging to communicate with job seekers
The scam: Scammers have started using fake instant messaging accounts created through programs like Yahoo! Messenger and Google Talk in order to conduct fake job interviews with unsuspecting job seekers.
How to spot the scam: While instant messenger has become a great way for employees to communicate with one another, it’s very rare to find a legitimate company using IM to conduct job interviews. If a company asks you to chat with them over IM, request a phone interview instead, and make sure they give YOU a number to call, and not the other way around. Before consenting to any interview, research the company to see if you find any red flags about them.
As you can see from this actual transcript of an IM chat between a scammer and a job seeker, the scammer’s English language skills are often lacking, they offer unnecessary details like their age, they use lots of !! and ?? punctuation, and they are able to provide the job seeker with a hiring decision immediately. They then ask for $369 for software programs, and require payment via Western Union, another huge red flag.
I download yahoo messenger the night before the interview and find the person I’m supposed to interview with. There’s a profile photo (I know, I know…) and their email address in their bio. Nothing else. Then again, I’m not one for filling my own bio on messenger applications with lots of details so I’m hardly going to complain that someone else’s is lacking in information.
The next day we start the interview over IM. It’s a first for me, but I’m happy to play along. She – the scammer posed as a woman – proceeds to tell me about the company, and the information looks not unlike a press release version of the information I’ve already seen on the website the night before. Then she tells me that the position is work-from-home and I completely miss this second red flag. What can I say, I like the idea of working from home and getting to hang out with my dogs all day.
She goes on to tell me about the training:
[scammer]:The supervisor, who will be connected to you online, will assign logs of duty daily and you will be required to follow instructions to the detail using Microsoft Office and a specialized accounting software. The function of the accounting software is to arrange, formalize, and manage the data you have processed which you will then send to your supervisor via e-mail.[scammer]: You will undergo a week training from your training supervisor. During that time, he will be training you to work with the company-specific programs with much accuracy and other data entry tasks you will need to get done. Your training will be conducted online through your PC or cell phone. Which do you prefer ?
The company would be mailing you a check which you will be using to purchase the needed software’s and mini office equipments. These software’s would have to be purchase from the company’s certified vendor’s. Also most of the equipments you will be getting from the vendor’s are tailor-made. which was meant for the company alone. understood ?
How much training do you think you need to become a productive employee?How would you describe yourself?
what do you understand by privacy and code of conduct?
[me]: Do you have a company website?[me]: Am I correct in thinking you are based out of [real company’s location]?[scammer]: Yes.[me]: How many employees do you currently have?[scammer]: Over 500-1000[me]: what is your company website[scammer]: We’re currently working on it. so it’s down for now.
The saddest thing in all this, once the dust settles and I stop being furious at my self for falling for the scam, and the scammer for duping me, the saddest thing is that there was no job. I’ve been looking for months and, while I am an actor and am looking for an agent and auditions, I also want to be able to pay my bills. In a perfect world I would have an admin or executive assistant job with one of the networks or production companies, where I could live the rest of my days working in the entertainment industry, encouraging other actors and creative types, and being one of the little cogs in the big wheels that turn our behind-the-scenes work into the TV shows and movies we love so much.
There was no job, and that really is the hardest thing to get my head around. This scammer went to a lot of trouble spoofing a company even to the point they had a similar website name as the legitimate one, and they took all the information from the real company and recreated it, not quite verbatim, during the interview and tried to convince me they were the real deal so that I would trust them with my time and my information.
It’s sad and pathetic that there are people like that in the world. It’s equally sad that there are people like me who will be caught out by them and perhaps won’t be as fortunate as I was to realize it was a scam, and end up a victim of identity theft because of these people.
The folks over at http://www2.idexpertscorp.com/ are great, and I spoke to them about this yesterday. They let me know that this kind of thing happens a lot and the scammers are becoming more sophisticated about their methods. So while I might still feel compelled to keep kicking myself over being duped, I should at least take comfort in the fact I’m not alone, and I did manage to figure it out before any harm was done. My pride may be dented, but my information and identity are still secure.
So for those who need to know how to spot a scam in a job posting or interview, here are some of the internet’s tips and points to look out for:
- Using fake URLs to mask themselves as large, well-known companies
- Using well-known company names to get personal banking information
- Prowling on LinkedIn offering too-good-to-be-true jobs
- Using Instant Messaging to communicate with job seekers
- Too Good to be True
- You didn’t contact them, they contacted you
- The pay is great
- You get the job right away
- Vague Job Requirements and Job Description
- Unprofessional Emails
- Generic and/or vague job titles
- Big pay for little jobs
- Bad grammar, lots of!!! or $$$
- Getting too personal (filling out a sample application for example)
- They want irrelevant details (such as your pet’s name)
- No legit email address
- Troublesome keywords (“Work from home,” “unlimited earning potential”)
Bullet Point sources:
So there you have it. I’m still mad I was duped but after writing all of this I can at least rest easy knowing that my experience here might save someone else from being scammed by a fake job posting.
Stay safe and remember, it can happen to the best of us.